Captain America cast

[Tom Brazelton]

Seriously... that's his weapon... a SHIELD!?! So when he flings it, does it come back to him automatically? Or does he have to go retrieve it everytime... so lame. I guess the villains end up laughing so much they get distracted and lose focus.

The idea is that Captain America is at the people of human physical conditioning and a master strategist. His athletic ability and his mathematical mind make it possible for him to hurl his shield at a velocity that disables his opponents AND figure out the angles that helps return the shield to his hand when it ricochets.

I was never very interested in Captain America as a kid. He's like Superman in the sense that he represents an ideal more than a fully fleshed out character. Captain America has enhanced strength and durability. But his real super powers are his inflexible ideology and patriotism.

That said, I was reading Cap's book after Civil War and his assassination. In Ed Brubaker's hands, he's infinitely more interesting. His book works better with the air of espionage and political tension than it does straight-up super heroics.

[The REAL Brian]

because I think throwing the shield will look pretty goofy on screen.

Seriously... that's his weapon... a SHIELD!?! So when he flings it, does it come back to him automatically? Or does he have to go retrieve it everytime... so lame. I guess the villains end up laughing so much they get distracted and lose focus.

No, he just uses his expert hand to hand combat skills to kick their asses.

Seriously man. If you know next to nothing about a character, you're not going to effectively poke holes in his premise.

And as it's been stated before, the shield is unbreakable. Wolverine's claws can't even cut through it.

[afr0puff]

And as it's been stated before, the shield is unbreakable. Wolverine's claws can't even cut through it.

Again, so how does he get it back... if he throws it at someone, it ain't ricocheting back to him. Same thing when he throws it at cars/walls... it should go right through them, or become stuck inside them, not bounce off. Even without the shield, who wants to see lame hand to hand combat from superheros? Even his origin is pretty lame being frozen under the arctic for decades.

[logosmonkey]

So when he flings it, does it come back to him automatically? Or does he have to go retrieve it everytime... so lame. I guess the villains end up laughing so much they get distracted and lose focus.

I don't know.. a friend and I were talking about that earlier and neither of us knew for sure. I think maybe it comes back...maybe?

[IsaacMahomie]

Even without the shield, who wants to see lame hand to hand combat from superheros?

Who wants to see hand to hand combat from superheroes!? Um... try EVERYONE!? All superheroes use hand to hand combat. Especially the successful ones, like Batman and Wolverine.

Listen guys, stop hating. Every superhero has the potential for good and bad character portrayal. Do you see Adam West still doing Batman? - No. Do you see Iron Man still using cheesy gadgets in his suit? - No. Do you see Wolverine running around in a gay yellow suit? - No.
Characters evolve over time, and they evolve when they hit the big screen. Give Captain America a chance. This won't be two hours of a guy throwing a shield like a boomerang.

[Tom Brazelton]

Again, so how does he get it back... if he throws it at someone, it ain't ricocheting back to him. Same thing when he throws it at cars/walls... it should go right through them, or become stuck inside them, not bounce off.

"Rogers' indestructible shield was long referred to, even in continuity, as being composed of an adamantium steel-vibranium alloy."

"The vibranium in the shield grants it unusual properties, allowing it to absorb virtually all of the kinetic impact from any blows that the shield receives without injuring Rogers in the process. The vibranium is also a factor in the way Rogers throws his shield: he often uses it to ricochet around a room and strike various opponents with little loss of velocity in its forward movement after each impact."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America%27s_shield

Even without the shield, who wants to see lame hand to hand combat from superheros? Even his origin is pretty lame being frozen under the arctic for decades.

I dunno. They made three Bourne movies, didn't they? Same elements, I think. At least, that's how I see a Captain America movie playing out.

[afr0puff]

I dunno. They made three Bourne movies, didn't they? Same elements, I think. At least, that's how I see a Captain America movie playing out.

Bourne is human... it's in the realm of plausibility on the big screen. Batman and Wolverine hardly engaged in hand to hand combat on screen. Most people were downed by a single stroke or slash. Plus, Batman doesn't have superpowers, so when he punches or gets hit, it looks/feels human.

Look how terrible Wolverine looked when he had to do extended combat on screen in X3 and Origins. In the opening scene for X-men when he's in the cage, he throws two punches max and headbutt. Each one has the sound effect associated with a superhuman strength. It's a slow, drawn out fight. Not close quarters combat.

[logosmonkey]

I'm not saying this won't be a good movie. I'm just saying I have my doubts and I'm really not that excited for it... at least not as much as I am for other movies of characters I actually like.

It seems like in movie form this would probably work better Brubaker style like Tom mentioned. However, that seems like it will be hard to mesh into the wider Marvel Movie U for the Avengers movie. It may work out perfectly, but right now I'm iffy on this one.

[mlsterben]

Batman doesn't have superpowers, so when he punches or gets hit, it looks/feels human.

If I understand correctly, Captain America is sort of between human and superhuman: his strength, speed, etc are at peak human levels.

it will be hard to mesh into the wider Marvel Movie U for the Avengers movie.

That's a good point, but haven't the comics done that for years? I mean, if I had to look at both Captain America and Iron Man and decide who would win in a fight, I'd put my money on Iron Man. If the competition was that obvious, it wouldn't make an exciting read.

[LincM]

But the thing that makes these fights interesting is the same as why Rocky and Rocky II are equally interesting, while being very distinct movies about the same two opponents facing off again: the development between the films' respective times and the threats and stakes being raised. Balboa could win one day, while Creed could win the next. The same applies when you compare Cap and Iron Man: they could both win against the other, but not in every scenario or on any given day.

Having said that, I doubt they'd fight one another physically in the film (although there might be some verbal barrage, which could make it interesting).

[mlsterben]

That's what I'm saying. Cap is a serious contender in most Marvel fights, despite his slightly less powerful superpowers.

[IsaacMahomie]

I hope they dedicate a serious part of the film to Captain America in WWII. That would be awesome.
Captain America taking the beaches of Normandy? Can't get much better than that.

[blairp]

I do want to see a Captain America movie but not with Chris Evans as Cap. He is already the Human Torch. One actor per marvel superhero/villain. I'm completely just nitpicking by saying this haha.

[afr0puff]

I hope they dedicate a serious part of the film to Captain America in WWII. That would be awesome.
Captain America taking the beaches of Normandy? Can't get much better than that.

And then he gets frozen in ice and thawed so hes in the present?

[LincM]

I'd find it funny if he gets frozen by getting washed into the beaches at normandy, but that's a bit of a stretch, unless they go with an Atlantis storyline, and even that's a hard line to walk.