Captain America cast

[Tom Brazelton]

If I understand correctly, Captain America is sort of between human and superhuman: his strength, speed, etc are at peak human levels.

Exactly.

Physically, Captain American is basically the Batman of the Marvel universe. Except, you know, he used the Super Soldier Serum to reach physical perfection. He didn't do it himself.

[Jon]

They'll most likely play him like the Ultimates Cap. Now that's a character even us brits can like!

He comes out with great lines whilst fighting for his life, something you won't see with Wolvie as he won't die:
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I have a bit of faith in it, the film will be a straight WW2 film that ends with him getting frozen methinks.

To me I loved in the Ultimates how they had him very much a man out of time, he honour, tastes and understanding of gadgets very much dated, thats how I hope they have him.

[The Bodyguard]

Man, I remember when Captain and Batman fought to a complete stand still because they are both too badass to lose to one another

[fantasticraig]

They'll most likely play him like the Ultimates Cap. Now that's a character even us brits can like!

He comes out with great lines whilst fighting for his life, something you won't see with Wolvie as he won't die:
http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2 ... rance4.jpg

I have a bit of faith in it, the film will be a straight WW2 film that ends with him getting frozen methinks.

To me I loved in the Ultimates how they had him very much a man out of time, he honour, tastes and understanding of gadgets very much dated, thats how I hope they have him.

That scene from the Ultimates where he fights the Hulk has to be one of the most badass moments in comics.

[The REAL Brian]

Man, I remember when Captain and Batman fought to a complete stand still because they are both too badass to lose to one another

Ah DC VS Marvel. A series that managed to be both awesome and lame at the same time. Readers voted on who would win the various fights ahead of publication, which is the worst way to decide who will win a fight in a comic. As result we had Storm defeating Wonder Woman(Simply because the X-men were popular as hell at the time) and an adamantium deprived Wolverine SOMEHOW defeating the immortal Lobo(The fight ended off-panel). But Cap VS Batman was one of the few GOOD fights in the series. As I recall Batman only won because they were fighting in the sewer and Cap got hit by an enormous rush of water, giving Bats a chance to crack his noggin good with a batarang.

[The REAL Brian]

I hope they dedicate a serious part of the film to Captain America in WWII. That would be awesome.
Captain America taking the beaches of Normandy? Can't get much better than that.

And then he gets frozen in ice and thawed so hes in the present?

Yes. Because that's what happened in the comics.

Seriously man, I'm all for everyone voicing their own opinions, but I feel like you're trying to derail the thread. Captain America is a classic comic book character and the most iconic character Marvel has. And I won't lie, I've poked fun at his little wings he wears on his mask. I've rolled my eyes at his previous films. But in my opinion, he's no sillier than any other comic book hero. Even The Watchmen were a little silly.

So he was frozen and throws a shield. Superman is from another planet. Batman can somehow buy billion dollar planes without leaving a money trail. Spiderman's webbing is as strong as steel and dissolves into nothing after an hour. A world that's perfectly okay with superheroes like Thor and Ironman fears and hates Mutants because being born with powers is somehow terrible and getting powers later in life is A-OK. It's all shlock if you look hard enough at it.

Again, seriously. I feel like we're spending more time in this thread defending a character who shouldn't need defending instead of, you know, discussing the upcoming movie.

[The Bodyguard]

Chris Evans as Captain America is younger than I would have liked.


Honestly I wanted Mark Valley or Aaron Eckhart. They have the chins for it. And when they yell, you hear a MAN!

[punchline]

Chris Evans as Captain America is younger than I would have liked.


Honestly I wanted Mark Valley or Aaron Eckhart. They have the chins for it. And when they yell, you hear a MAN!

i was thinking Aaron Eckhart as well. My number one choices would have been Thomas Jane or Clive Owen though, if they were maybe just a couple of years younger, and if Owen can pull off a convincing American accent. You never know though, Chris Evans just might pull it out.

[IsaacMahomie]

hmm. good point.
Can Chris Evans step up and be the leader and soldier that is Captain America?

(Also, does anyone have problems with Evans already being a character in the marvel universe?)

[The Bodyguard]

I think he can. I mean, I see him as inexperienced soldier. I think he can pull of the maturity of the role as it continues. I mean, a lot of soldiers enter war thinking they are the hot shit. Captain America is written as a veteran but he wasn't always. I can see him telling everyone to shut up and follow his lead. I think Evans has greatness in him, he just has a lot of sarcasm in him to get through.



And it doesn't bother me. I consider Fox different canon since it is. So its fine with me.

[logosmonkey]

I don't consider the FF movies.... ever.

I'm not particularly concerned with Evans as Cap, I think he can likely pull it off. I'm more concerned with how they'll end up writing the movie and what kind of tone it will have.

[afr0puff]

Again, seriously. I feel like we're spending more time in this thread defending a character who shouldn't need defending instead of, you know, discussing the upcoming movie.

My whole point is that if the character is lame to begin with, where does that leave the movie? Maybe to comic book fans he's the most iconic for Marvel, but not to the rest of the world. He doesn't hold a candle in terms of brand recognition to Spider-man, The Hulk, or Wolverine.

But in terms of gimmicky and silly, being frozen in ice and throwing a shield is right up there with molecule man and ant man and whatever else they were scraping with the bottom of the barrel because they ran out of original ideas. The others all present a fantastical element that people can day dream about. Hell, even getting blasted with gamma rays and becoming a green freak is acceptable. No one daydreams about being injected with steroids and throwing a shield.

He's a hard sell to people who don't read comics. Plus when you have a director without any discernible style and who's last movie bombed miserably, you are going to get a film like Ghost Rider.

[fantasticraig]

Again, seriously. I feel like we're spending more time in this thread defending a character who shouldn't need defending instead of, you know, discussing the upcoming movie.

My whole point is that if the character is lame to begin with, where does that leave the movie? Maybe to comic book fans he's the most iconic for Marvel, but not to the rest of the world. He doesn't hold a candle in terms of brand recognition to Spider-man, The Hulk, or Wolverine.

But in terms of gimmicky and silly, being frozen in ice and throwing a shield is right up there with molecule man and ant man and whatever else they were scraping with the bottom of the barrel because they ran out of original ideas. The others all present a fantastical element that people can day dream about. Hell, even getting blasted with gamma rays and becoming a green freak is acceptable. No one daydreams about being injected with steroids and throwing a shield.

He's a hard sell to people who don't read comics. Plus when you have a director without any discernible style and who's last movie bombed miserably, you are going to get a film like Ghost Rider.

Iron Man wasn't too recognizable to non-comic fans either before the movie.

"No one daydreams about being injected with steroids and throwing a shield."

How is a scrawny nerd who drinks a serum and becomes a super hero not something people would daydream about?


I don't think this is a valid argument against the movie anyway, because this will all depend on what direction they decide to take him for it and how good the movie ends up being. Remember, The Dark Knight and Batman and Robin were both about the same character.

[punchline]

He's a hard sell to people who don't read comics. Plus when you have a director without any discernible style and who's last movie bombed miserably, you are going to get a film like Ghost Rider.

I may be alone here, but i have faith in Johnston. he's had some missteps, but i loved The Rocketeer, The Page Master, Jurassic Park 3, and The Wolfman, which make up almost half his movies. Granted none of them were exactly classics (except The Rocketeer, which i totally consider a classic), but they were definitely enjoyable films with incredibly different styles. He may not be my first choice for this project, but i wouldn't automatically write him off either.

[The REAL Brian]

Yeah, edit your qoute brother, because I didn't type that.

And Afro, fine, you don't like Cap. Your disliking the character doesn't mean his film will automatically suck. Sometimes it's the lesser knowns that perform the best. As it's been pointed out, the general public didn't know who the flip Iron Man was. They still loved his movie.

And when you hit someone in the face with a forty pound shield, they stay down.