The REAL Brian wrote:Again, seriously. I feel like we're spending more time in this thread defending a character who shouldn't need defending instead of, you know, discussing the upcoming movie.
My whole point is that if the character is lame to begin with, where does that leave the movie? Maybe to comic book fans he's the most iconic for Marvel, but not to the rest of the world. He doesn't hold a candle in terms of brand recognition to Spider-man, The Hulk, or Wolverine.
But in terms of gimmicky and silly, being frozen in ice and throwing a shield is right up there with molecule man and ant man and whatever else they were scraping with the bottom of the barrel because they ran out of original ideas. The others all present a fantastical element that people can day dream about. Hell, even getting blasted with gamma rays and becoming a green freak is acceptable. No one daydreams about being injected with steroids and throwing a shield.
He's a hard sell to people who don't read comics. Plus when you have a director without any discernible style and who's last movie bombed miserably, you are going to get a film like Ghost Rider.