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Postby wanker545 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:05 am

I did a search and found no previous thread...


In a hidden extra for the Blu-ray version of Revenge of the Fallen, Bay expressed his intention to make Transformers 3 not necessarily larger than Revenge of the Fallen, but instead go deeper into the mythos, give it more character development, and make it darker and more emotional. Shortly after the release of Revenge of the Fallen, Orci said he would like to introduce Unicron "for scale's sake", and Unicron is seen during the Transformers 3 preview video in the Revenge of the Fallen Blu-ray edition, but no comment is made on the subject.



If this is true I can olny say wow... just wow...
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Postby IsaacMahomie » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:38 am

What's the Unicron?
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Postby Reginald Cornishstone » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:28 pm

As the resident Transformers geek around here (probably), I've been following this movie franchise pretty closely. Now I haven't picked up Revenge of the Fallen, so I didn't know about being able to see Unicron in a preview for the next movie. But I've heard from the very beginning that, like the Dinobots, Bay has been severely opposed to using a character like Unicron in these live action movies.
I could have sworn that I read somewhere that Shockwave was going to be the major antagonist for the next installment. But who knows what kind of misinformation they're trying to spread?
I for one wouldn't be completely against reusing Unicron one last time, but I'd much more prefer to see a newer concept. Or at least the use of usurper Shockwave could force both factions to work together maybe? I dunno.

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IsaacMahomie wrote:What's the Unicron?


He's the planet-sized Transformer "god" that eats other planets

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Postby blairp » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:35 pm

With how the first two movies have gone, Bay will change Unicron, to be a Unicorn. A giant planet eating Unicorn.
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Postby Reginald Cornishstone » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:40 pm

blairp wrote:With how the first two movies have gone, Bay will change Unicron, to be a Unicorn. A giant planet eating Unicorn.


After the fucking robot testicles in the last one, that would be a tremendous improvement.
But it's already been done:

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Postby SolarSonic » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:14 pm

Reginald Cornishstone wrote:After the fucking robot testicles in the last one, that would be a tremendous improvement.


Until they change it so that Unicron is actually a giant robot testicle belonging to an even giant-er robot.
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Postby LincM » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:23 pm

Isn't the Devastator from Revenge a kind of a different take on the Unicron? Kind of a one-trick thing there. Mind you, the first and second films both seemed to be very same-ish to me. There was no distinction visually in the colour pallet used between the two.
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Postby blairp » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:49 pm

I'm watching the Transformers animated movie right now, and I really don't think they can pull of Unicorn in the third. They need a build to him. Not just throwing him into the mix. There will obviously be a fourth(unless number 3 bombs like no other). Be smart with the third one, and start planting the seeds of Unicorn in it.
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Postby LincM » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:21 am

I'm pretty sure Bay has said he wants to stop at 3. Spielberg too.
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Postby wanker545 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:47 am

LincM wrote:Isn't the Devastator from Revenge a kind of a different take on the Unicron?



No he was not at all. Unicron remade and enslaved Megatron and was leader of the Deceptacons. And a world devourer to boot. The Destructicons are just 5 deceptacons that can merge to create a bigger transformer where Unicron is just a giant transformer...
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Postby Mongbert » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:36 am

Does anyone really care about this franchise? It doesnt even have CHARACTERS. It just has confusing shapes that make noises. The second film didn't even improve on the first, it added the stupid ice tream van guys and Big Yorkshire Plane, who it then killed off for very little reason..

Without Megan Fox, who was undoubtedly a massive draw, I'm surprised they're even bothering.
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Postby Reginald Cornishstone » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:51 am

Mongbert wrote:Does anyone really care about this franchise? It doesnt even have CHARACTERS. It just has confusing shapes that make noises. The second film didn't even improve on the first, it added the stupid ice tream van guys and Big Yorkshire Plane, who it then killed off for very little reason..

Without Megan Fox, who was undoubtedly a massive draw, I'm surprised they're even bothering.


THAT is by far the main reason us geeks complain about this interpretation of this franchise. Every other cartoon iteration treats it like an ensemble cast of characters who happen to be robots; all of the humans involved are secondary with minor exceptions.
These two movies took the focus away from the reason so many men my age went apeshit for these stories when they were younger. It became a story centered around this awkward kid caught in the midst of the robots fighting and running and shooting and sometimes transforming.
Here's hoping they shift that focus to the robots this time around and concentrate on their relationships. I don't mind having a couple of humans around to gape and wonder at these amazing alien machines, but it seems ridiculous that they barely gave these lifeforms any kind of personalities. It's called TRANSFORMERS not SCREAMING KID with an Impossibly Hot Girlfriend.
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Postby blairp » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:24 am

LincM wrote:I'm pretty sure Bay has said he wants to stop at 3. Spielberg too.


Thats fine. Someone can reboot it 4 years later like Spiderman, and then they can do things properly with Transformers.
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Postby LincM » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:55 pm

I'd be for doing a proper version, except that it's not like they've bombed. The movies have grossed far in excess of their cost, and if anything, instead of starting from scratch, it'll just be taken on by a new team.

Having said that, I'd love it if they went with the more traditional, and most successful of the TV series from the 80s. The absolute best thing they did with the movies has been casting the core transformers voices, but little else has been as good as it should have been, least of all the transformers designs, cool as they are, they're just not what almost any of us remember. I can buy that having Optimus being as tall as he is he'd need to have the front engine, not the COE, that kind of thing I can buy. Turning Bumblebee into a Camaro from a bug, well, that's obviously a sponsorship deal with the manufacturer, and it's a shame they didn't make the same deal with VW, but I can buy that, but it's just not right how many pieces everything was meant to have, given that in the film, Bumblebee changes the platform he's based on because of the mechanics within being on a molecular level. If it can be molecular, why does it even need to have a cohesive shift? Why aren't they all just like Alice (Isabel Lucas' character), if they have thath much coherent mechanical cognition?
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Postby Reginald Cornishstone » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:31 am

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